Olds Price Surveys from 2004

Data by Ingrid Halonen (August-September 2004)
Data by Clay Collins (April-June 2004)
Summary
Combined


Sheet 1: Ingrid

This is a survey of F. E. Olds trumpets and cornets excluding the Ambassador model that are successfully auctioned on eBay.
Ratings
1 Parts horn, missing major part/s

Poor appearance
3 Good apperarance
4 Great appearance
5 Like New


Abbreviation Definitions




PL Poorly Listed Not easy to find through my regular search practices on eBay.


HM Highly Modified Part substitutions or additional parts such as #1 valve trigger








SM Slightly modified Overhauled or cosmetically altered from original








GFC Guess From Case Guess on date of manufacture from case












































Item Number Model
Serial Number Price
Rating Date
More













Pinto






















Special Trumpet










3741055824 Special T 53473
$72.00
2 Aug 14
SM

3741055014 Special T 339031
$60.59
2 Aug 14
SM

3740536383 Special T 385,228
$105.50
2 Aug 11



3739072917 Special T 679399
$199.00
4 Aug 03



3738513949 Special T 160020
$113.50
3 Aug 03
PL

3739481482











Special T none
$147.50
3 Aug 05



3743096756 Special T none
$97.38
3 Aug 25
PL

3742768372 Special T 31236
$321.99
5 Aug 26



3743837875 Special T 552186
$94.00
2 Aug 29



3745271705 Special T 275XXX $200.00
3 Aug 29




3745024268 Special T 709946
$385.00
3 Sep 04



3746223566 Special T 172972
$350.00
4 Sep 05



3744795350 Special T 26250
$290.00
3 Sep 05



3745645093 Special T 1961-64
$125.51
2 Sep 07
GFC

3748594622 Special T states 1933 $475.00
5 Sep 15
SM


3747830936 Special T none, says LA $128.00
2 Sep 17




3749535633 Special T 378xxx
$225.00
3 Sep 22



3749992380 Special T 21306
$266.00
4 Sep 25



3749645457 Special T 92781
$126.50
2 Sep 26



3750448885 Special T 580229
$168.50
1 Sep 29















Special Cornet










3741106866 Special C 105XX
$200.00
3 Aug 14
SM

3738732754 Special C 69780
$56.55
1 Aug 01



3741870718 Special C 265XXX $77.00
2 Aug 21
SM


3741273654 Special C 1970’s
$150.00
3 Aug 15
GFC

3743637042 Special C 23xxx
$70.50
3 Aug 28



3745497682 Special C none
$350.00
4 Sep 04



3745220216 Special C 22834
$127.50
3 Sep 05



3745273510 Special C 510696
$113.75
3 Sep 05



3746520556 Special C 147685
$55.00
2 Sep 09



3747867173 Special C 565818
$365.00
5 Sep 20



3748910095 Special C 139160
$51.00
2 Sep 25



3749978033 Special C 119764
$50.99
2 Sep 27



Studio Trumpet










3739884075 Studio T
55XXX
$368.75
3 Aug 08
GBP

3738731445 Studio T
751052
$306.99
3 Aug 01
Nickel

3741987474











Studio T
127389
$520.00
5 Aug 19


3741436333 Studio T
132775
$299.00
4 Aug 19


3748584618 Studio T
127389
$562.06
4 Sep 21


3749991455 Studio T
56031
$355.00
3 Sep 25


3749535060 Studio T
72xxx
$205.50
3 Sep 25


3749530463 Studio T
141757
$281.00
3 Sep 26


























Studio Cornet










3741580312 Studio C
57,xxx
$170.00
2 Aug 10
silver

3741811321 Studio C
59289
$153.50
2 Aug 21


3738431480 Studio C
724065
$365.00
4 Aug 03
Silver?

3744925492 Studio C
states 1957 $405.00
5 Sep 03



3745615717 Studio C
554,xxx
$399.00
4 Sep 05
silver













Super Trumpet










374024051 Super T
16172
$565.00
2 Aug 09


3739393640 Super T
127634
$261.50
2 Aug 04


3739302713 Super T
3077XX
$300.00
4 Aug 04
Silver

3740784324











Super T
341xxx
$350.00
4 Aug 06


3743469232 Super T
341XXX $420.97
4 Aug 25



3745571829 Super T
25331
$682.00
5 Sep 09 SM AK sold

3747066847 Super T
341XXX $687.77
5 Sep 12



3747283414 Super T
33231
$241.50
3 Sep 15
PL

3748483791 Super T
222015
$586.01
4 Sep 20


3748676204 Super T
57XX
$355.00
3 Sep 21


3750623276 Super T
4543
$485.98
3 Sep 30






































Super Cornet










3739361431 Super C
231888
$236.36
3 Aug 04


3744959424 Super C
states 1932 $337.00
4 Sep 03



3745796535 Super C
711524
$406.99
5 Sep 07


3746080325 Super C
7315
$267.99
3 Sep 09


3746538472 Super C
37454
$255.00
2 Sep 09


3746852993 Super C
23530
$212.50
2 Sep 11


3746789788 Super C
5745
$362.55
4 Sep 12














Recording Trumpet










3741692402 Recording T n/a
$1,300.00 5 Aug 12
AK sold


3739027418 Recording T 269347
$643.00
4 Aug 03



3742932996 Recording T 78629
$375.00
1 Aug 24
AK won

3743335060 Recording T 49574
$660.00
3 Aug 24



3744765437 Recording T states 1956 $800.00
5 Aug 27




3743610887 Recording T 379894
$586.99
3 Aug 28
AK won

3743778772 Recording T 718040
$760.00
4 Aug 29
silver

3745547964 Recording T 214646
$462.99
3 Sep 06



3746525575 Recording T 242781
$457.00
3 Sep 11
AK won

3747379855 Recording T 498136
$566.56
3 Sep 15



3748872569 Recording T 638381
$520.00
3 Sep 22



3748636807 Recording T 617990
$850.00
5 Sep 24















Recording Cornet










3744252700 Recording C none
$162.50
1 Aug 29















Mendez Trumpet










3743128601 Mendez T none
$623.00
3 Aug 25



3743493817 Mendez T states 1965 $995.00
5 Aug 27




3745753151 Mendez T 336129
$750.00
4 Sep 01



3746477383 Mendez T 801199
$571.00
3 Sep 09
AK won

3749057114 Mendez T 489079
$1,225.00 5 Sep 23




3750241013 Mendez T 565515
$810.00
4 Sep 26



























Mendez Cornet






















Opera Trumpet










3740402204 Opera T
541,xxx
$531.99
3 Aug 10
silver













Opera Cornet










3739162528 Opera C
428,6xx
$591.55
5 Aug 03
Silver













Super Star Cornet










3742430899 Super Star C 827774
$306.99
5 Aug 22
Silver

3745359761 Super Star C 827782
$355.00
5 Sep 05
silver

























Super Star Ultra Sonic Trumpet










3740506685 Super Star US T 802558
$477.00
5 Aug 08
Silver













Super Star Trumpet










3744484737 Super Star T 824397
$382.00
4 Sep 01
Silver

3747323915 Super Star T none
$399.00
5 Sep 09
silver













Super Recording Trumpet










3742008412 S. Recording T 22,4xx
$565.00
2 Aug 13



3738998217











S. Recording T 24,944
$1,252.00 4 Aug 06




3742067588 S. Recording T none
$750.00
4 Aug 15



3747755380 S. Recording T 10591
$1,432.00 4 Sep 19




3749339590 S. Recording T 44794
$1,525.00 4 Sep 24
















Super Recording Cornet










3747757641 S. Recording C 14041
$420.00
3 Sep 19



























Aida






















3741922552











Aida Studio none
$399.99
5 Aug 19















Military Model Cornet










3740128435 Military Model C 4,900
$407.00
3 Aug 10



3747666796 Military Model C 5957
$1,233.33 4 Sep 19
















The Olds Trumpet










3748695490 The Olds T 6423
$177.50
2 Sep 21















The Olds Cornet










3744087493 The Olds C 3312
$195.50
1 Aug 30



























Clark Terry Model










3742609232











Clark Terry n/a
$510.00
3 Aug 18















NA10M










3743900669 NA10M T states 1996 $132.50
4 Aug 27
















NC12M










3744931761 NC12M T none
$430.00
5 Sep 03 Key of C














Standard










3745114709 Standard T 17617
$128.50
2 Sep 04



Sheet 2: Clay

This is a survey of F. E. Olds trumpets and cornets excluding the Ambassador model that are successfully auctioned on eBay.
Ratings

1 Parts horn, missing major part/s
2 Poor appearance
3 Good apperarance
4 Great appearance
5 Like New
Abbreviation Definitions



PL Poorly Listed Not easy to find through my regular search practices on eBay.

HM Highly Modified Part substitutions or additional parts such as #1 valve trigger

SM Slightly modified Overhauled or cosmetically altered from original

GFC Guess From Case Guess on date of manufacture from case


Item Number Model
Serial Number Price
Rating Date
More












Pinto









3717660876 Pinto
910885 51
3 4/22/04


3717958806 Pinto
1970's 41
2 4/20/04
GFC

3721009050 Pinto
1970's 68.89
2 5/4/04
















3 53.63
2.33















































Special Trumpet









3714477562 Special T
127214 $241.50
3 4/2/04


3712392898 Special T
874xxx $340.00
5 3/28/04


3712680800 Special T
53456 $147.49
2 3/25/04


3724955716 Special T
629030 $260.00
3 5/22/04


3723390487 Special T
38909 $157.50
2 5/16/04


3714960615 Special T
53473 $73.00
1 4/6/04
















6 $203.25
2.67


























































Special Cornet









3713469327 Special C
23256 $100.00
2 4/30/04


3717194424 Special C
191766 $128.50
3 4/17/04


3725057677 Special C
959449 $137.50
3 5/24/04


3714373697 Special C
459121 $48.00
3 4/3/04


3713531868 Special C
573xxx $299.99
4 3/30/04
















5 $142.80
3

























Studio Trumpet









3716561495 Studio T
195440 220.09
3 4/11/04
SM

3714024547 Studio T
570247 253
3 4/1/04


3719009403 Studio T
Circa 1957 255
3 4/18/04


3714898782 Studio T
132775 204.4
2 4/15/04


3714644200 Studio T
57297 239.5
1 4/7/04


3718099362 Studio T
574353 306
3 4/21/04


3718006820 Studio T
56031 275
2 4/19/04


371464449 Studio T
35668 102.5
1 4/27/04
















8 $231.94
2.25














Studio Cornet









3716302137 Studio C
94581 197.5
3 4/15/04


3714004544 Studio C
circa 1969 250
3 4/1/04


3713792706 Studio C
early 50's 161.46
3 3/31/04


3715084983 Studio C
204756 149
3 4/6/04
















4 189.49
3














Super Trumpet









3715875132 Super T
7543 616
4 4/11/04
SM - valves replated

3715193383 Super T
455364 450
4 3/31/04
sm - relaquered

3712775242 Super T
530419 255
3 3/30/04


3713498521 Super T
1950's 381
3 3/30/04
GFC

3713083119 Super T
15427 790
4 3/28/04


3725205786 Super T
481218 393
3 5/25/04


3724735609 Super T
5420 550
3 5/23/04


3724208429 Super T
284038 149
2 5/13/04


3719469619 Super T
early 50's 515.05
4 4/23/04
SM

3714383386 Super T
493011 750
5 4/3/04


3714050212 Super T
16xxxx 338
3 4/4/04


3715721334 Super T
19976 197
2 4/3/04
















12 $448.67
3.33






































































































Super Cornet









3715662210 Super C
25765 291
3 4/10/04


3717911389 Super C
650136 356.51
3 4/20/04


3725050421 Super C
20588 303
3 5/24/04


3724548250 Super C
106216 265
3 5/22/04


3724217475 Super C
188347 125
2 5/13/04


2714673817 Super C
510850 250.5
2 4/4/04
















6 $265.17
2.67





































































Recording Trumpet









3746476912 Recording T
137578 $527.17
2.5 4/13/04


3716058091 Recording T
91xxx $745.00
3 4/9/04


3714006798 Recording T
1970's $650.00
3 4/1/04
GFC

3713087745 Recording T
4xxxxx $500.00
3 3/28/04
SM

3717668061 Recording T
475xx $665.00
3 4/19/04


3725984251 Recording T
7179xx $535.00
3 5/23/04


3723161817 Recording T
6180 $753.00
4 5/15/04
SM -Relacquered

3714976268 Recording T
8052xx $525.00
3 4/6/04
















8 $612.52
3.06


























































Recording Cornet









3719006683 Recording C
56417 $460.00
2 4/20/04


3723431192 Recording C
685xx $406.00
3 5/16/04
HM - standard mpc receiver















2 $433.00
2.5


























































Mendez Trumpet









3713210391 Mendez T
430922 610
3 3/29/04


3713011587 Mendez T
1960's 1000
4 3/28/04
GFC

3716947679 Mendez T
630229 1367.87
4 4/15/04
UK Seller

3725131514 Mendez T
331603 1175
5 5/23/04
silver

3723420598 Mendez T
228158 585
3 5/16/04


3720064188 Mendez T
176346 950
4 4/23/04


3720824003 Mendez T
421401 1105
4 5/3/04
















7 $970.41
3.9














Mendez Cornet




















Opera Trumpet































Opera Cornet









3713955542 Opera C
4499981 310
3 3/30/04


3714691914 Opera C
449xxx 629
3 4/7/04
















2 469.5
3




































Super Star Ultra Sonic Trumpet









3717317479 Super Star T
8364xx 375
4 4/10/04


3716871404 Super Star T
802558 335
4 4/13/04
















2 355
4



Super Recording









Custom Crafted









3714219371 Custom T
714389 $970.00
5 4/3/04
























Aida































Military Model Cornet































The Olds































Flugelhorn









3716243062 Flugelhorn
5543xx 357
3 4/12/04
HM - replaced leadpipe

37189722267 Flugelhorn
1960's 500
3 4/21/04
GFC

3725062484 Flugelhorn
672004 935
5 5/24/04
















3 $597.33
3.67



Silver Star Flugel









3724757938 Silver star Flugel
927599 266.87
2 5/21/04
























Ultra Sonic Bb









3712451801 Ultra Sonic T
1970's 507.91
4 3/29/04
UK Seller












Eb Trumpet









3712942539 Eb Trumpet
1970's 267.1
2 3/28/04













Standard Cornet









372481841

9585 350
2 5/23/04













Standard Trumpet









3724166135

17318 230
2 5/20/04


























































































April/May 2004 Olds Survey































Model
# Sold Ave. Price Ave. Rating
Percent of Sold



Trumpets


(1 thru 5)





Pinto
3 $53.6 2.3
6%



Special
6 $203.2 2.7
12%



Studio
8 $231.9 2.3
16%



Super
12 $448.7 3.3
24%



Recording
8 $433.0 2.5
16%



Mendez
7 $970.4 3.9
14%



Opera
0


0%



Super Star Ultra Sonic
2 $355.0 4.0
4%



Super Star
0


0%



Super Recording
0


0%



The Olds
0


0%



Clark Terry
0


0%



Standard Model
1 $230.0 2.0
2%



Custom Crafted
1 $970.0 5.0
2%



Ultra Sonic
1 $507.9 4.0
2%
















49







Cornets









Special
5 $142.8 3.0
25%



Studio
4 $189.5 3.0
20%



Super
6 $265.2 2.7
30%



Recording
2 $433.0 2.5
10%



Opera
2 $469.5 3.0
10%



Super Star
0


0%



Super Recording
0


0%



Military Model
0


0%



The Olds
0


0%



Standard
1 $350.0 2.0
5%
















20







Flugel horns









Flugel horns
3 $597.3 3.7





Silver Star Flugel
1 $266.9 2.0





Sheet 3: summary

August/September 2004 Olds Survey






April/May 2004 Olds Survey





























Model # Sold Ave. Price Ave. Rating
Percent of Sold

# Sold Ave. Price Ave. Rating
Percent of Sold
Trumpets

(1 thru 5)





(1 thru 5)

Pinto 0





3 $54 2.33
6%
Special 20 $198 2.9
29%

6 $203 2.7
12%
Studio 8 $362 3.5
12%

8 $232 2.3
16%
Super 11 $449 3.5
16%

12 $449 3.3
24%
Recording 12 $665 3.5
17%

8 $433 2.5
16%
Mendez 6 $829 4
9%

7 $970 3.9
14%
Opera 1 $532 3
1%

0


0%
Super Star Ultra Sonic 1 $477 5
1%

2 $355 4.0
4%
Super Star 2 $391 4.5
3%

0


0%
Super Recording 5 $1,105 3.6
7%

0


0%
The Olds 1 $178 2
1%

0


0%
Clark Terry 1 $510 3
1%

0


0%
Standard Model 1 $129 2
1%

1 $230 2.0
2%
Custom Crafted 0





1 $970 5.0
2%
Ultra Sonic 0





1 $508 4.0
2%














69





49



Cornets











Special 12 $139 2.8
38%

5 $143 3.0
25%
Studio 5 $299 3.4
16%

4 $189 3.0
20%
Super 7 $297 3.3
22%

6 $265 2.7
30%
Recording 1 $163 1
3%

2 $433 2.5
10%
Opera 1 $592 5
3%

2 $470 3.0
10%
Super Star 2 $331 5
6%

0


0%
Super Recording 1 $420 3
3%

0


0%
Military Model 2 $820 3.5
6%

0


0%
The Olds 1 $196 1
3%

0


0%
Standard 0





1 $350 2.0
5%














32





20



Flugel horns











Flugel horns






3 597 3.67

Silver Star Flugel






1 267 2


Sheet 4: Combined

2004 Olds Survey April/May and August/September



















Model # Sold Ave. Price Ave. Rating
Percent of Sold
Trumpets





Pinto 3 $54 2.3
2.5%
Special 26 $199 2.8
22.0%
Studio 16 $297 2.9
13.6%
Super 23 $449 3.4
19.5%
Recording 20 $572 3.1
16.9%
Mendez 13 $905 3.9
11.0%
Opera 1 $532 3.0
0.8%
Super Star Ultra Sonic 3 $396 4.3
2.5%
Super Star 2 $391 4.5
1.7%
Super Recording 5 $1,105 3.6
4.2%
The Olds 1 $178 2.0
0.8%
Clark Terry 1 $510 3.0
0.8%
Standard Model 2 $180 2.0
1.7%
Custom Crafted 1 $970 5.0
0.8%
Ultra Sonic 1 $508 4.0
0.8%








118



67.8%







Cornets





Special 17 $140 2.9
32.7%
Studio 9 $250 3.2
17.3%
Super 13 $282 3.0
25.0%
Recording 3 $343 2.0
5.8%
Opera 3 $510 3.7
5.8%
Super Star 2 $331 5.0
3.8%
Super Recording 1 $420 3.0
1.9%
Military Model 2 $820 3.5
3.8%
The Olds 1 $196 1.0
1.9%
Standard 1 $350 2.0
1.9%








52










29.9%
Flugel horns





Flugel horns 3 $597 3.7
75.0%
Silver Star Flugel 1 $267 2.0
25.0%








4



2.3%







Total sales 174





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